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According to you, ideal vs. actual that the actual practice of morality would often require flexibility and adaptation.

Rather, I would say that the actual practice of morality rarely requires correction of proven mistakes and often requires added specifications after evolution and new realities. Is that better?

Gemini-Bard's reply:

That's a helpful clarification. Your perspective suggests that while the core principles of morality may remain constant, the specific applications of those principles may need to be adjusted to address new challenges and circumstances.

Here's a summary of your points:

Core Principles: The core principles of morality are relatively stable and enduring.
Specific Applications: The specific applications of these principles may need to be adjusted to address new challenges and circumstances.
Corrections: While corrections may be necessary in cases of proven mistakes, they are less frequent than the need for added specifications to address evolving realities.

I agree with your assessment. This perspective highlights the importance of maintaining the core principles of morality while also recognizing the need for flexibility and adaptation in specific contexts.

my counter-reply:

Closer, but not yet enough. I would prefer these points:

Core Principles: The core principles of morality are ideally stable and enduring.

Specific Applications: The applications of these principles may need to be improved to specifically address new challenges and circumstances.

Corrections: While corrections may be necessary, in cases of proven mistakes, they are less frequent than the need for added specifications to address evolving realities.

and this conclusion: This perspective highlights the importance of maintaining the core principles of morality while also recognizing the need for verification to avoid proven errors and added specifications for newer contexts.

Using poor words, I think that speaking with words of flexibility and adaptation might allow ideas that bad tomorrow may be not so bad.

Gemini-Bard's reply:

Your revised points are even more precise and helpful.

Here's a summary of your key points:

Core Principles: The core principles of morality are ideally stable and enduring.
Specific Applications: The applications of these principles may need to be improved to address new challenges and circumstances.
Corrections and Specifications: While corrections for proven mistakes are necessary, the more frequent need is for added specifications to address evolving realities.
Verification: It's essential to verify the effectiveness of moral principles and their applications to avoid errors and ensure they remain relevant to new contexts.

I agree with your conclusion. Using words like "adjustment," "adaptation," or "flexibility" can sometimes create ambiguity and raise concerns about potential compromises in moral standards. It's important to emphasize the need for verification and rigorous evaluation to ensure that any changes to moral principles or their applications are justified and aligned with the core values.

Would you like to discuss any specific examples of how these principles can be applied to contemporary ethical challenges?